it's been pointed out by others, but...

[acroyear]

Mitt Romney really needs to read the f'in' Constitution he claims to want to uphold.

Romney: We need to have a person of faith lead the country.

The Constitution: No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States.

and later: ...no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.

So Romney, take your lack of education, your naked bigotry, and your willingness to deflect your own minority status by picking on an even smaller (and more hated) minority, AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR ASS.

God I'm getting pissed at the Right Wing today...

Comments

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

I'm just disagreeing across the board here.

trust, faith, and belief are not synonymous at all. in fact, the meanings of those is at the heart of the argument. in the context of the comment and in the context of the philosophical debates, those are three *extremely* different words, distinct for a clear reason.

Romney meant faith EXACTLY as i worded it. it was an intentional attack on atheists, a reflection of the modern polls that have come out stating that people distrust atheists more than homosexuals. context is key, and the context of any politician's speech is what has been in the headlines recently.

when someone says "of faith", they mean of religious belief, period.

the "of" is CRITICAL in the expression. "of the same faith" is not "of faith" and never has been.

the scientific method is a lot more than just the test. its the process not only of research, determining the test, and conducting it. its also the process of peer review, publication, and the ability of others to duplicate your results. that much fuller version of the scientific method is why science "works" - its the self-correcting nature of science that "faith" completely lacks and actively deters.

it wouldn't get under his skin. he can't debate for shit in any instance or he wouldn't have opened up this hornets nest that isn't merely because the media doesn't think "slagging atheists" is a problem.

[cyberkender.livejournal.com]

I'm just disagreeing across the board here.

Ok, I accept that and I am not trying to persuade you to change either.

>trust, faith, and belief are not synonymous at all. in fact, the >meanings of those is at the heart of the argument.

Dictionary.com and Thesaurus.com disagree with you on definition.

Romney meant faith EXACTLY as i worded it. it was an intentional attack on atheists, a reflection of the modern polls that have come out stating that people distrust atheists more than homosexuals. context is key, and the context of any politician's speech is what has been in the headlines recently.

And I was agreeing with you the entire time.

in the context of the comment and in the context of the philosophical debates, those are three *extremely* different words, distinct for a clear reason.

Exactly. I *specifically* took his words out of his context to use them in my own.

when someone says "of faith", they mean of religious belief, period.

That is a sweeping generalization. I am sure you always mean it that way, but your statement is applying context to everyone else in the world. Would that not be very similar to the sort of thing the Religious Right tries to do to the world? I'll speak for myself, thanks.

the "of" is CRITICAL in the expression. "of the same faith" is not "of faith" and never has been.

You are arguing against the quoted dictionary definition here, and not my words.


I should have been more clear in my last sentence: I should have said "in such a way as to appear to agree with him" rather than just"in such a way as to agree with him."

[thatwasjen]

Speaking as a linguist, not a scientist, I concur that trust, faith, and belief are not synonymous. Each has a separate connotation -- faith in particular relates almost entirely to religious matters, whereas trust is something that can be proven, won, earned, and/or broken.