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...you're calorie-counting your drinks too much when you recognize that a 10oz apple juice bottle has more calories than a 12 oz coke.

Date: 2005-04-15 05:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
Why is that too much?

Date: 2005-04-15 05:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
i never said it was too much, as it were.

however, yes, its too much. its like cutting down on cutting down on french-fries by eating more rice -- an even exchange that does nothing to the calorie count. (low-carb diets keep the caloric intake the same by changing body chemistry, hence the reason they level off in effectiveness after 6 months: your body adapts).

i'm trying to cut back on excess daytime calories that came from drinking 2 cokes a day, and finding that the vast majority of alternatives, even "healthy" ones, are just as bad from a calorie-counting perspective (other nutrional benefits not withstanding).

even most sweetened teas have as many calories as a coke. nobody bottles un-sweetened tea anymore.

so i need to get unsweetened iced tea, somehow, on a regular basis, easy enough that i don't have to leave my office to do it.

Date: 2005-04-15 06:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
I usually dilute fruit juices.
Or you can add lemon or lime to water.
I take it you don't do artificial sweeteners?

There's also those fruit waters from trader joes that are flavored but not sweetened.

short answer: no

Date: 2005-04-15 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
long answer: sacharin sucks (never mind the may or may not have been bogus cancer warnings). cyd can't take nutrisweet so i weened myself off of that and prefer not to. and splenda's rare in bottled drinks, and over-applied where its used (like dominion diet root beer).

Re: short answer: no

Date: 2005-04-15 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vvalkyri.livejournal.com
i've noticed that splenda seems oversweet, but hadn't really thought of it that way.

there's some weird plant sweetener one can get, but that's not goingto be in botttled drinks, either.
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Re: short answer: no

Date: 2005-04-16 01:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
cyd used to drink those all the time 'til they started bothering her tummy, so we stopped keeping them around the house.

Date: 2005-04-15 06:34 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] thatwasjen
nobody bottles un-sweetened tea anymore.

Actually, I live on this stuff:
http://www.itoen.com/

Date: 2005-04-15 05:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theshaggyfreak.livejournal.com
Arizona does bottle an unsweatened tea, but it's damn hard to find. After living in Texas for 5 years, I kind of prefer it. The only time I put sugar in my tea when I go out now is if the tea is really nasty.

Date: 2005-04-15 05:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyclotho.livejournal.com
I cut coke out of my diet a few years ago, and replaced it with just water. you'd be surprised at how many people don't drink enough water. Drinking more of it will also reduce your appetite if you drink a glassful before eating. But, if you want an alternative, get a bottled water, and one of those crystal light packets. 0 calories there. :-) And fairly tasty!

Date: 2005-04-15 06:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] javasaurus.livejournal.com
Black coffee is nearly calorie free(even with a dab of cream and teaspoon of sugar you might get 50cals).

Date: 2005-04-15 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
its my usual morning drink (with honey, not cream, and a little sugar). but if its hot outside i won't bother (iced coffee sucks).

i also go caffene free after 4pm, but i've been doing water for that.

the real crunch-time is about 315, though eating lunch w/out leaving the office is also a hassle. both times i need the caffene, my two coke-a-day habit that i'm trying to get off of.

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