acroyear: (sp)
[personal profile] acroyear
get this...

ok, so I can say "damn" 5 times, have some cloud destroy a space station of several hundred people, and some electric alien come in and zap away a main character and get a G rating... (Star Trek 1)

and I can have a teenager shoot his own dog after you've spent 75 minutes getting us to love it and get a G rating... (Old Yeller)...

and I can basically have the main bad guy die by falling a hundred feet to his doom and get a G rating... (basically about 1/3rd of the disney animated films, including Rescuers 2, Tarzan, Beauty, Hunchback, ...)

...but if one person lights up who doesn't really need to smoke (by some other persons standards, of course, not their own), then i have to give it an R??????

some people have some really fucked up ideas of what they think kids should be allowed to see...that's fine, but they shouldn't be the judge of my kids. Hide their own children in a closet.

My children will know the world with my attention and my guidance, not in spite of my ignorance or negligence.

Date: 2004-03-10 06:43 am (UTC)
dawntreader: (boot to the head)
From: [personal profile] dawntreader
this actually made me laugh because it was so stupid.
He'd like to see more PG-13 movies that feature smoking — like "Matchstick Men," "Seabiscuit" and the Oscar-winning "Chicago" — get slapped with an R rating.


a. i didn't realize Matchstick Men 'featured' smoking. i saw it, and i didn't notice that smoking was a major plot point. i can't even recall who was smoking in the movie. hm. must have missed the entire purpose for the movie of MATCHSTICK (irony there?) Men.

b. Seabiscuit and Chicago take place during a time when EVERYONE ON EARTH INCLUING THE DOGS were smoking. they didn't know about lung cancer yet, probably because people weren't living long enough to catch it. [sarcasm] of course, they also had children back then who weren't so delicate and simpleminded and needed to be sheltered from everything. [/sarcasm]

Date: 2004-03-10 09:24 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] blueeowyn.livejournal.com
Besides which I would have considered giving Chicago an R rating for completely different reasons. The plot is creative ways for a murderer to not be convicted. The bits about adultery and other killings are also a part of it.

Seabiscuit had some smoking (but I don't remember it standing out). The violence of the movie was more of an issue (to me) than smoking.

I don't like smoking, I don't like being around smoking. However, I don't think that smoking is so horrible that it should count significantly in the ratings of movies. There are a lot of PG-13 movies that I am surprised got that rating (instead of R) and some R movies that I am a little surprised that they didn't get NC-17.

I wonder if someone will suggest that movies that show other behaviors (sex outside of marriage, transsexualism, homosexuality, questioning the government, religious fervor, etc.) be sanctioned the same way.

chicago violence = rated R

Date: 2004-03-10 10:33 am (UTC)
dawntreader: (discussion)
From: [personal profile] dawntreader
i would agree with an R rating if movies were rated for topic matter. but the way it was portrayed didn't appear to be overly violent. so even though it talked about violence, it didn't seem to be violent (one gunfight sequence being the exception.)

i felt PG-13 was accurate.

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