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TimesDispatch.com | Group seeks change in divorce law:
The Family Foundation of Virginia, a conservative organization that touts family values, says it will push for reform in Virginia's divorce laws.

Victoria Cobb, the organization president, told a news conference today that the foundation will seek legislation in the upcoming General Assembly to require mutual consent for divorce in families with minor children.

Under Virginia's current no-fault divorce law, one spouse can end the marriage.

Cobb acknowledged that the issue is complicated. To date the organization has not found a sponsor of the proposed legislation.
These nutballs were heavy sponsors of the VA Gay Marriage Ban, including being overtly deceptive about what the second paragraph means in terms of its impact on personal contract law and the degree to which it puts the state of VA deeply into conflict with federal law on that subject.

So, they want to paint this as if its just a case of getting a divorce just because you "don't love them anymore".

Well, its not.  If there's something approaching communication and its clear one doesn't love the other, they'll usually settle the divorce mutually.

That's not the problem.

The problem is this: abuse.

MOST one-sided divorce cases are because of four possibilities.
  1. The husband is abusing the wife.
  2. The father is abusing the child.
  3. The spouse is abusing his or her self through addictions (alcohol, drugs, gambling) that directly harm the rest of the family.
  4. The spouse is in jail for a long time and is a liability on the family, especially if its for one of those three that reach the point of getting the law involved.
If someone is abusing the child but its in ways that aren't directly physical and therefore not overtly illegal, then the other spouse should by all means remove the child and themselves from the abuser.  Period.

Granted, there's odd cases where the REAL abuser is the one doing the accusations, as Law and Order likes to show at least once a season, but the reality is that most people aren't so self-deluded.  If anything they're self-deluded into trying to imagine or act like there isn't a problem when there is.

At any rate, this is, just like the attack on gay marriage, an attack on personal choice in matters that do not affect them at all, all based on an extremely artificial interpretation of what "family" is supposed to be, and not what dysfunctional families really are and the pain one side goes through when they can't leave the source of abuse.

It should not be on the part of the state to decide whether or not a divorce is justified.  It should only act to make sure it is fair.  You can't MAKE people stay together, so quit trying.

To force people to stay married when one really can't live with the other merely because you think GOD told you to is to put a law on the books strictly for YOUR religious beliefs, and that is UTTERLY unconstitutional.

The illusion of family shouldn't be worth destroying the reality of the Constitution nor the reality of personal choice and self-responsibility that Jesus calls us to.

Date: 2007-01-05 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voltbang.livejournal.com
When I filed my divorce it was initially one sided. We did eventually track her down and got her to sign papers and stuff, but for the initial filing, I didn't have any contact information for her.

Date: 2007-01-05 12:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
ok, so "abandonment" is another situation. if someone just walks away, should the other stay married when there isn't a relationship?

again, this proposal ignores reality for the sake of their illusion of "family".

Date: 2007-01-05 05:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bronxelf-ag001.livejournal.com

So, they want to paint this as if its just a case of getting a divorce just because you "don't love them anymore".


Which is more than enough, frankly.

Date: 2007-01-05 12:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
agreed; that really is the root cause of all of forms of divorce. The right-wing nutballs that care more about their precious "religious law" than they do about, you know, actual people, really know nothing about love at all.

sigh

Date: 2007-01-05 01:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zammis.livejournal.com
Why do these people hate Virginia, and all that the founding fathers from Virginia stood for?

They need to have their eyes taped open and be forced to watch a 20 hour marathon of COPS. Maybe that would thwack it through their brains that NOT EVERYONE IS LIKE THEM.

Re: sigh

Date: 2007-01-05 01:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
unfortunately, they *know* not everyone is like them and that's why they are doing this.

they figure (with no actual proof at all) that if people were forced to follow the "laws of god" (not that they don't cherry-pick their fav quotes at any particular era, morality always being relative and at times a fashion statement more than a philosophy of life), then they would realize the value of having god in their lives and would convert to christianity.

unfortunately, that actually worked...for the muslim faith, in the mass conversion of the mongols in the middle east after kahn died, after which there was a relative peace for decades.

no, not everyone is "just like them", but if they assert enough control, they can make everyone LOOK like they are just like them and that will be enough to keep them comfortable.

individuality is a fear, a risk, a danger, and its the fear they are most attached to right now. eliminate individuality and they believe that will be the end of fear.

which i suppose would be a nicer way to live as the planet plunges into the inevitable self-destruction that would result.

Date: 2007-01-06 03:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scaleslea.livejournal.com
Should this reform go through, I foresee lots of runaway spouses and "kidnapped" children.

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