They push her to the ground, tearing her wig off in the process.
Actually her wig was off long before she made it to the ground.
the goon with the blue shirt and baseball cap lifts his foot and stomps on her, his heel (which by the time it makes contact, is covered by the back end of his jeans) hitting her square in the head.
No kick, no stomp. Watch it again and pay some attention, Diego. He places his foot on her shoulder and pushes down. And he's not using a lot of force to do it.
So you're arguing that all of those people were pretending to be Paul supporters, so as to reflect bad on the candidate? Really? Really?
I'm saying it's a possibility. Moveon has done that kind of crap before, it could happen again.
Plus you argue that she is putting up "little resistance?" Might I remind you that there is a protest technique called "creative non-violence" which had been used historically going back to Mohandas Gandhi and some minister guy from Atlanta who got shot back in 1968?
Remind me all you like. Doesn't change that she doesn't look to be resisting all that much.
Jay, please stop.
No.
You're going to all sorts of lengths to justify a blatant and violent attack on a woman who was guilty of nothing more than wearing a wig and carrying a sign.
I'm saying that grainy, several-second long videos rarely tell the whole truth, no matter what it shows. I'm not justifying, I'm questioning.
You've made the "she asked for it" defense,
No I haven't. You and Zombie have put words in my mouth. Rather tacky of you.
you've [falsely] claimed that if conservatives did this at an Obama rally, they'd lose teeth when in reality, right-wing protesters showed up—in any number of times, not an "isolated incident"—carrying weapons.
None of the weapon-carriers tried to deliver a package to the candidate in question. You going to read everything I write or just pick and choose what you want to argue about?
Please stop, Jay. You can't defend this one. Don't try.
Watch me. So far you've given me strawman arguments, not paid attention to details I pointed out, and taken my comments out of context.
Right now all you're doing is feeding me crap in the twisted hope of turning me into a troll. I'm doing my best to resist (and trust me, I'm being far more polite than I normally am)
You're right—I haven't heard a single word about that Juan Williams guy. Not a word. No media firestorm, nothing.
You call that a firestorm? One, it's not, and two, it's a different topic entirely.
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Date: 2010-10-26 08:17 pm (UTC)Then why are you encouraging me?
They push her to the ground, tearing her wig off in the process.
Actually her wig was off long before she made it to the ground.
the goon with the blue shirt and baseball cap lifts his foot and stomps on her, his heel (which by the time it makes contact, is covered by the back end of his jeans) hitting her square in the head.
No kick, no stomp. Watch it again and pay some attention, Diego. He places his foot on her shoulder and pushes down. And he's not using a lot of force to do it.
So you're arguing that all of those people were pretending to be Paul supporters, so as to reflect bad on the candidate? Really? Really?
I'm saying it's a possibility. Moveon has done that kind of crap before, it could happen again.
Plus you argue that she is putting up "little resistance?" Might I remind you that there is a protest technique called "creative non-violence" which had been used historically going back to Mohandas Gandhi and some minister guy from Atlanta who got shot back in 1968?
Remind me all you like. Doesn't change that she doesn't look to be resisting all that much.
Jay, please stop.
No.
You're going to all sorts of lengths to justify a blatant and violent attack on a woman who was guilty of nothing more than wearing a wig and carrying a sign.
I'm saying that grainy, several-second long videos rarely tell the whole truth, no matter what it shows. I'm not justifying, I'm questioning.
You've made the "she asked for it" defense,
No I haven't. You and Zombie have put words in my mouth. Rather tacky of you.
you've [falsely] claimed that if conservatives did this at an Obama rally, they'd lose teeth when in reality, right-wing protesters showed up—in any number of times, not an "isolated incident"—carrying weapons.
None of the weapon-carriers tried to deliver a package to the candidate in question. You going to read everything I write or just pick and choose what you want to argue about?
Please stop, Jay. You can't defend this one. Don't try.
Watch me. So far you've given me strawman arguments, not paid attention to details I pointed out, and taken my comments out of context.
Right now all you're doing is feeding me crap in the twisted hope of turning me into a troll. I'm doing my best to resist (and trust me, I'm being far more polite than I normally am)
You're right—I haven't heard a single word about that Juan Williams guy. Not a word. No media firestorm, nothing.
You call that a firestorm? One, it's not, and two, it's a different topic entirely.