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The loudness of coffee shops : Greg Laden's Blog:
The other day, I was at T-1 Rebuild. T-1 Rebuild is the newest, largest Target store in the region. It is the location of T-1, the very first Target, and recently, it was leveled and replaced with an entirely new Target. It is the biggest and bestest Target ever. There is a coffee shop in that Target (a commercial variety, I can't remember if it is a Starbucks or what). I have noticed that that Target's coffee shop is totally quiet. Try it. If you live near T-1 Rebuild, to over there and get an espresso drink that involves steamed milk. You will barely hear them make it. Sit down and have your drink while someone else orders a drink. The barista will clean out the machines and NOT bang shit on other shit while doing so.

Somewhere up the line, at Target Central, it was determined that the coffee shop in Target would be quiet. So the memo went down the line.

To: Manger of Coffee Shop in Target
Re: Noise

Don't be noisy.

The Management

And that was all it took. The coffee shop has quiet equipment which is somewhat noise-shielded form the public area. The baristas are instructed to not bang shit on other shit. There is very little noise and no annoyance.

Ditto the coffee shop at the book store nearest here. We were over there the other day getting a baby naming book, and I went over to check it out. I pretended to browse through the magazines as I watched people order coffee drinks.

The machines were relatively quit, and relativity noise shielded, and the barista was not banging shit on other shit at all.

It can be done, people. A coffee shop does not have to be a shop of horrors when it comes to loud noise. I know that one off the counter arguments to what I am saying is that the quiet coffee shops to which I refer have automatic espresso machines, and thus don't make the banging and grinding noise. I do not care. This is not important to me. I am an archaeologist. I know all about banging shit on shit. It can be done loudly, it can be done with reckless abandon. The procedure can be adjusted so metal is banged on a sound absorbing substance so it is only half as loud. You don't have to bang shit when you are adjusting the muffins. Muffin adjusting can be done in virtual silence, as a matter of fact.
So far I've yet to be in anything worse than the "bistro" at our hotel in San Diego this year, but there are a lot of places with insta-gringers and insta-steamers that just flood the place with noise.  Anybody wonder why I never actually use the dozens of Starbucks cards we've got collected around here?

Date: 2009-07-07 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fiona64.livejournal.com
To be perfectly frank, I expect noise in a bistro or coffee shop. If I want quiet, I go to the library.

This reminds me of a very annoying occasion at a coffee shop in Berkeley. I was dating Matt at the time, and we were chatting about something -- and he let go a laugh that was absolutely joy-filled. Some woman came over to the table to tell him to stop laughing, because "some people are studying here." I don't get it. If you want to study, go to the library.

Yes, I understand that everyone has different levels of noise tolerance, but I just don't go to coffee house and expect stony silence. :-/ (OTOH, I am not a coffee drinker, generally go to such places with friends to get a nibbly something-or-other and leave. I don't treat it as my study hall.)

Date: 2009-07-07 08:40 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] thatliardiego.livejournal.com
I've found that when you "bang shit on other shit," it usually just makes kind of a squishy goopy noise.

YMMV.

Date: 2009-07-08 04:06 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] voltbang.livejournal.com
If you have unwanted starbucks cards, I will give them a home. They make tolerably good cookies.

Plus, I work in a thug town called arlington....

Date: 2009-07-08 02:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
nah - I figure I collect enough of them and I can buy my own espresso machine from them and just make my own noise at home without bothering anybody but the cat.

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