well, he could have both started and stopped there...

[acroyear]

EvolutionBlog : My Review of Expelled:

I won't waste your time fulminating about the tawdriness of all this. I'll just remark that for anyone with any interest at all in facts or logic this film simply confirms that the ID folks and the right-wing propaganda machine that supports them are just about the most odious, soulless, conscience-free, dishonest, lying, political hacks on the planet.

but he does give it a prelude...

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[3fingeredsalute.livejournal.com]

Shit -- I'm so fucking steamrolled on this.

I keep hearing HORRID reactions to this movie, but have not cared enough to find out what the hell is going on. Is this pro biblical-design or pro scientific-evolution? Some group is pissed off, this I know. I just want to know which group it is and whether I want to pay my $8.50 to see the movie in the theater.

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

See http://www.expelledexposed.com/ for the full horror.

This is a pro-"God" thing, trying to establish 3 things

1. That evolution is the first stage for atheistic science to get "God" out of the classrooms
2. That anybody who comes out in favor of ID is persecuted (the religious right have this odd persecution complex for being in the political majority here) as "Big Science" suppresses "academic freedom"
3. that Darwinism was responsible for Hitler and the holocaust

Naturally, these are all ass-backwards as the Constitution forbids "God" (in their specific terms) in the classroom, pro-evolution science teachers and administrators are the ones *really* getting fired, and the holocaust owes far more to Martin Luther than to anything any scientist ever came up with.

The film has also stolen a number of things from others including music (2 rock songs its known they didn't get the rights to), CGI footage (they got an animator to clone footage from a Harvard educational video), and even stylistic elements (the film apparently ends with a lot of "fade to black" endings, ala Return of the King).

As Dawkins posted, it is one 90 minute long "lying for Jesus".

[3fingeredsalute.livejournal.com]

Aside from the thievery of intellectual property, I disrespectfully intend to let this pile of steaming refuse vanish without a whit of interest. Thank you for clarifying what I misunderstood to be a championing of exactly the opposite from what it represented itself to be.

Bueller?... Bueller?... Bueller?

Stein and the ID lies continue to be found out

[uncle-possum.livejournal.com]

This week's Newsweek (Apr 28) letters section notes in the Apr 14 interview the following, stated by Stein:

Richard Sternberg, at the Smithsonian, was the editor of a magazine that published a peer reviewed paper about ID, and as a result lost his job.

Fact: Sternberg has never been employed by the Smithsonian--he has been an unpaid research associate in their National Musuem of Natural History.
In any case, he still has full access to the research facilities. Oh, and the journal in question is not affiliated in any way with the Smithsonian.

Note the clever formatting of the rhetoric of Stein's statement. This is more the high level untruth of "equivocation" than even just ordinary lying.