they just can't leave well enough alone...

[acroyear]

or actually make the assumption we're not *that* stupid...

The Disney Treasures series dvd on Disneyland has a Disneyland TV show broadcast in 1962, "Disneyland After Dark", which includes a segment on polynesian dances from Tahiti and Samoa.  Well, at the time nobody would have bothered...but this new pressing/mastering includes the "professional stunt person, do not attempt" warnings.

utterly anachronistic, reminding me that ALL history can be tampered with in the end, and always reflects the time at which its presented regardless of what it was at the time.

*sigh*

i can't wait until broadcasters and media suppliers just take "don't do stupid shit at home" for granted, like they used to.

or can we just let darwin take over like he used to?

makes you wonder, if darwin was still alive, would he have been sued today when stupid people do stupid things and make the list?

also makes you wonder why they didn't disclaimer some of the other obviously historical things at the time, like the fact that in the mark twain riverboat sequence included, the only black people on segment are the performers, with none in the audience? :)

at least with the blackface stereotypes in mickey mouse in b&w, they included the discliamer...again, i can't wait 'til that becomes permanently *history*, recognized as such so that no politically correct disclaimers are necessary to reassure the permanent victim-class that showing this stuff today doesn't mean anybody actually feels or acts that way anymore...

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[kiltboy]

That'll hapen right about the time they release "Song of the South" on DVD...

actually, they *have* released it....

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

but only in Germany and France where nobody gives a shit.

they got themselves out of having to release it in the states by expanding the amount of the animated section in the Disney/Coca-Cola Christmas Special of 1951, included on the 2-disc Alice In Wonderland release. The original had highlights, but they spliced in a full-color version (where the original was mastered in black-and-white for TV) of the whole segment instead of just the 2 or 3 minutes originally broadcast.

at least with Bing Crosby in Holiday Inn, they didn't have to disclaim the blackface in the Abraham Lincoln's Birthday segment. its good, 'cause it means that as a (future) parent, *I* can be the one to explain it to them rather than the boob-tube itself.

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[tchwrtr.livejournal.com]

"(future) parent"? So you're coming around...

I'll save my stuff for your other half--she'll be able to wear it. :grin:

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[faireraven.livejournal.com]

*smirk* Honey, that future parent thing has always been there... Just never quite sure of the time. still aren't. :)

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[tchwrtr.livejournal.com]

:laughs: You wait TOO long, and I'll just drop off the five or so boxes for you to hold in your garage. So there.

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[faireraven.livejournal.com]

I don't think the garage would take anymore... ;)

The garage

[tchwrtr.livejournal.com]

Oh, I think I'd find room in there for *these*

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[faireraven.livejournal.com]

(he's been collecting disney stuff for years now... A lot of it specifically for his future kin). :)

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[kiltboy]

So how's yours coming along? When's the Big Day? And is Daddy ready yet?

You should see Magali. Damn, but she's getting big fast... If'n ya wants to see pics, go here: http://www.msnusers.com/DreamaAstrid/shoebox.msnw

Later.

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

not even planning yet, so you just hush. we're still in the planning to plan stage, as we have to plan for how we'll handle her killing her boss first...

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[kiltboy]

I hate the way LJ stacks the responses. That wasn't meant for you two, as I know something of your schedule. That was meant for tchwrtr. So you just hush. And tchwrtr, that question's for you.

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

and all this is *SO* irrelevant to bitching about safety and history of stereotype disclaimers, you know...

Re: actually, they *have* released it....

[tchwrtr.livejournal.com]

Ok, ok...here you go.

I agree that we are over-regulating to the point where people aren't expected to think for themselves anymore. In my job I have to keep the audience in mind--the average nurse, and the average IT person. However, I have to ALSO think of that num-nut that got the job without knowing what she or he is doing, and make sure I have the apporpriate warnings in there to keep him from configuring our product in such a way that it could KILL someone.

But I'm in the healthcare business. It's different from everyday *common sense* that we used to expect everyone to have. Like that water and electricity don't mix. Well, they mix merrily, but not with a good outcome for living tissue caught in the dance.

It's a kidlet, and he's kicking his hello...

[tchwrtr.livejournal.com]

Day after Mother's Day is the scheduled day--that's May 9, a Monday. Since we've been invited to a wedding the Saturday before, I'm guessing he'll show up then, just because, and the weather the whole week before will be record highs, just because.

Daddy's acting like he's ready. The Grands are DEFINITELY ready. The nursery, not quite so. but we have some time still.

[fiona64.livejournal.com]

but this new pressing/mastering includes the "professional stunt person, do not attempt" warnings.

Jeff and I were immensely irritated by this when we viewed our copy. Shouldn't some things be a "duh"? I'm sorry that our society has become so frigging litigious that you have to put warnings on things that should be obvious.

I kid you not, in Jeff's toolbox is a screwdriver that has written on the handle "Do not insert screwdriver into eye." Argh.

[selkiesiren.livejournal.com]

Do you mean to say that the "disclaimor" was there specifically because someone was *dancing*?

You could put an *eye* out doing that!

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

sorry, should have been more specific. the dances in particular were the tahitian fire dance (similar to the fire dance in Lilo And Stitch, which likely used this footage as reference material), and the fire-walking dance from samoa (where the guy actually stands in a basin in flame).

so it wasn't the dances so much as the playing with fire.

[selkiesiren.livejournal.com]

Ah! OK...I shoulda guessed, I've seen Lilo and Stitch, after all ;)

In any case, yeeeeeah, OK, I can see that perhaps people might want to be careful about fire...but, I agree that it ought to be a matter of common sense, not "warning labels".