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and we should expect subsequent muppet show releases to be missing songs just as the first season did, as this article describes...

Date: 2005-12-28 03:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
What they've done to Quantum Leap really pisses me off. Not just the changing of Al's song, but there was an entire episode based in a radio station fighting to play rock music. They paid for the songs that were mentioned by name, then put in generic soft jazz junk rather than the rest of the music. That pisses me off the most - what, ALL the 50s music cost too much? They couldn't just plug in cheaper songs than what was originally aired and at least keep the feel of the episode correct?

Thank heaven for DVD burners. Mo still has a tape of that episode, and we're going to copy it off.

Date: 2005-12-28 03:49 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] dawntreader
soundtracks are a very lucrative market. but what surprises me is that they paid to use it in the original episodes. why do they have to pay AGAIN just to release it to DVD? that doesn't make sense. maybe this is me being clueless, but do the actors and directors and all the people who worked on the show get paid again as well?

Date: 2005-12-28 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mshelby.livejournal.com
actors, directors, and writers do get residuals for dvd sales.

Date: 2005-12-28 04:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tchwrtr.livejournal.com
Which makes the Fraggle Rock episodes even more interesting. I SWEAR they're filking songs. But it's all the original ones. I remember singing along as a kid.

Date: 2005-12-28 05:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I wouldn't be surprised if they did - public filking comes under parody laws and leaves the rights to the parody with the person who wrote it, not the original songwriter. Ergo, if Fraggle Rock only did their own ripoffs, they own that music, even if everyone knows that it's a riff of something else.

Date: 2005-12-28 06:30 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com
copyright protection covers distribution. if i broadcast something, that is one form of distribution. if i sell a concrete copy of something, that is a different form of distribution that needs to be renegotiated.

does the current system put too much power in the hands of the music labels (which is annoyingly ironic since most of the labels are owned by the same companies that own most of the movie studios)? of course.

there are standard rates for redistributing music in strictly audio form based on its size in proportion to the distributed work.

technically, fair use is supposed to cover any excerpt less than 20 seconds, but the studios can't afford the lawsuit if a label or publisher disagrees.

the movie industry seems to not be subject to any standard rate (the REAL problem here) so every song has to be independently negotiated.

Date: 2005-12-28 06:32 pm (UTC)
dawntreader: (beagle piano)
From: [personal profile] dawntreader
what's worse, is that i bet more often than not the label makes all the money and not the artist. the artist who sang the song and/or wrote it gets nothing unless they own the licencing rights to it.

Date: 2005-12-30 02:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] scaleslea.livejournal.com
BINGO! It's RIAA all over again.

Doc

Date: 2006-01-01 06:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cozit.livejournal.com
In other words, the creators of the missing music are incredible jerks who don't want todays kids to see and/or hear something that they used to be proud of having done.

Geez... yeah, expecting a *little* money if it's your due is one thing. Making it exhorbantly pricy is another.

Then again, if the folks putting out the DVDs are the ones who aren't willing to part with that "little" bit that's the due of the performer, then they are the stinkers.

Either way, the folks wanting to buy those episodes are a bit out of luck... and/or will know who those who don't deserve the respect onc given are.

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