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Joe's Ancient Jottings ([personal profile] acroyear) wrote2006-10-03 03:18 pm
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are faire memories hurting or helping one's sense of "magic" today?

One of the ways I re-kindle the "magic" for me halfway through the season when stresses of the daily numbers and the special event days eat away at my energy and my patience (granted, less now than before without the dreaded octoberfest), is to go back and watch the footage I have of the faire in years past, such as Ben's commemorative tapes from '97, Tee's tapes from '94-'97, Knotbender's dvds of '01-'03, and of course my (limited) set of faire photos of ages past.  I likely will do that this week or next...

but of course, that now has me wondering - for the few that are depressed by how the magic of the past doesn't seem to be there today, particularly backstage, does that just make it worse and deepend the emptyness.  It never does for me, it actually makes me stop and realize that the different people on cast, on stage, and on the streets are still very good people, very strong performers, and very much fun as well and in the end will contribute as many memories as those no longer with us.

or at least, that's MY take on it.

How 'bout others?  does going through old albums make you depressed or recharged as the season progresses, or do you avoid them to let the season be and put it into perspective after it's over?

Update: Correcting an appearant misconception!

I am not feeling any sense of needing to rekindle any "magic".  I am not having a bad year!  This is actually one of the most successful seasons for me in general, only having needed "adjustments" due to the change in chemistry at the pubs and trying to figure out what my "place" is at morning dance (I should get "involved" more than I do...).  Working Midsummers has been one of the highlights of my career (if you can call it that).  [livejournal.com profile] faireraven is having one of her best years ever, both for our Cat & Fiddle audiences and for her current calling as food punster.

This doesn't mean that halfway through a run we who work there don't start getting a little tired or start looking for a few pick-me-up kinda things, which is how this posting trend among us started.  For me, the videos and pictures of the (ancient?) past are a pick-me-up - I was merely curious as to whether or not that's a common feeling or does it produce the opposite effect of reminding too deeply of what some have lost over the years.  A simple question, nothing more.

Really, its recognizing that it's "different" and any time one actually notices that things are different, that the gradual changes over the years have evolved into a somewhat new thing (while at the same time remaining the old thing...its confusing that way), one stops and assesses whether or not one likes it.  These are perfectly normal feelings and having just crossed the halfway mark for the season, a perfectly normal time to feel and express it.

they help me

[identity profile] kitteblue.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been through so many jobs, Courts, acts that they're all golden, and there isn't really one "special year". They go up and down, losing people meeting new ones. I guess it's just remembering to find those moments for each year/cast/job.

OK Dash & Keith made me all sappy. I'll try to get back to grumpy later.

[identity profile] dashrippington.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 07:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I happen to love those old tapes... although I'm really grumpy that I lent out my copy of "A Day in Revel Grove"... and promptly never saw it again. Can Anyone make me a copy???

[identity profile] queenmaggie.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think I may have a copy... I'll check and see what I can do.

[identity profile] queenmaggie.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I just found the one I've got: It's titled "The Films of Revel Grove" and is marked as the 20th anniversary year... Is that the one you want? If so, I'll bring it on Saturday, and you can make a copy.

[identity profile] dashrippington.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 08:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I do not believe that is the one.

The one in question is the one that Ben Howard put together... there were 2 tapes. One was Pub Sing... and the other entitled "A Day in Revel Grove."

[identity profile] queenmaggie.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 08:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Nope, it isn't. This one was made by Tee Morris. sorry.

[identity profile] dashrippington.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 09:03 pm (UTC)(link)
ok... I still have that one. Thanx anyways.

[identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I have them, i just don't have a reasonable double-vcr setup to make the copy, nor the time to figure out how to get them into my computer as a dvd or download (or even just a cdrom).

[identity profile] mizjawnson.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 07:35 pm (UTC)(link)
As a paying guest, each day is different for me. So I don't compare my overall experience. Sure, I miss Wolgemut bunches and that's made me readjust how I spend my day. But instead, I've discovered an appareciation for other acts, such as Dinty, the Pyrates, London Broil, etc. So I'm certainly not sitting here, going "Gosh, last year was so much better/worse!".

To be frankly honest, all the jaded posts from the old-timers is getting weary. I understand how you all feel, but us "newbies" still enjoy the time we spend there. The magic isn't gone and it's not hidden. It's there. Sorry you guys can't see or don't feel it like you used to, but don't discount that there are some of us that still enjoy a simple moment at faire. The, well, bitching or reminiscing about the "good ol' days" does a great disservice to the new crew. It's that attitude that ruins the magic for me, not knowing what goes on behind the scenes to make the scenes happen.

Remember when you all are in the nursing home, it will be us youngin's who carry on. :-D

(Not all of this is directly directed to you, hon. Just been building up.)

how about...

[identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
...we build the nursing home as the next stage & pub, 'cause i'm gettin' tired of seeing us retire!

Re: how about...

[identity profile] mizjawnson.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
At least that way, you'd be assured of visitors!

[identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry you guys can't see or don't feel it like you used to, but don't discount that there are some of us that still enjoy a simple moment at faire.

and that's why i added this line: it actually makes me stop and realize that the different people on cast, on stage, and on the streets are still very good people, very strong performers, and very much fun as well and in the end will contribute as many memories as those no longer with us.

trust me, like [livejournal.com profile] jocelyncs, you and don are among those I am most proud and honoured by in helping turn from newbies into addicts ;-)

[identity profile] dashrippington.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
To be frankly honest, all the jaded posts from the old-timers is getting weary. I understand how you all feel, but us "newbies" still enjoy the time we spend there. The magic isn't gone and it's not hidden. It's there. Sorry you guys can't see or don't feel it like you used to, but don't discount that there are some of us that still enjoy a simple moment at faire.


I'm very happy that you do. I don't think I can express how happy that makes me feel. My question was more of a how can we revitalize some of the old timers... myself included... in bringing MORE "magic" to the streets. I hope it wasn't coming across as a bitch session. I just know that from time to time I am asked what I think should/should not be changed at faire... and to tell the truth... I've always been so wrapped up in what I was doing at the time that I didn't know what to answer. I've been soo busy for a number of years that it just didn't matter to me anymore. But I finally decided that this year, I was going to get out and look at the festival objectively. My post was somewhat what I saw when I did look around.

And yes... some of it is nostagia of the good old days... but a lot of it has to do with... if this is what I'm seeing... perhaps others are seeing it as well. I'm glad that is not what you are seeing. I'm glad that the shire holds it's own magic for you.... and I hope that you never lose that wide eyed appreciation for what we do.

[identity profile] mizjawnson.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I applaud you for inspiring such a discussion! It's not necessarily a bitch fest, but in the past, I have felt that there has been bitching going on, yes.

My point is that the number of posts I have seen today about rediscovering the "magic" of faire reminds me why I don't speak BFA, why I don't help privy lines, and why I don't acknowledge people (that extends to garbbed and non-garbbed alike). Just don't tell that to the group of danes I helped find the elephants on Sunday. Or to the woman looking for the 6p Rogues show. Although everyone did get a kick out of "Ye Olde ATM". Uh, yeah, rambling is my middle name. Just meaning to say that when the jaded attitude is repeated and rehashed, (generic) don't be surprised when it rubs off on others.
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[identity profile] thatliardiego.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Although everyone did get a kick out of "Ye Olde ATM".

I prefer to tell them it is the process of "Milking the Cash Cow."

[identity profile] theshaggyfreak.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
There are a lot of things I miss about faire and I'm starting to feel that those things are gone in a sense. To explain that, though, I'd have to get into the entire past 10 years of my life.

[identity profile] kowari.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
how many years have you been doing this now?
There is a term called "honeymoon" for a reason, you know.
Magic or no magic, if you do it over and over, it becomes normal. Faire (We dont have them here in Oz) is normal to you, not something different and new.

If you went away for a few years then came back to it, I think some of the magic would come back.

[identity profile] acroyear70.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 10:26 pm (UTC)(link)
re-read the entry to this post. I just updated it.

[identity profile] kowari.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I see what you mean, but when I do something for ages (like for me, it was 10 years of roleplaying cons) I had exactly the same thing. I felt that the older cons were more "magical" than the recent ones. And I agree, I still had a GREAT time at the recent ones, but something was different.

I put it down to
a) having done many many many in a row, without a break
b) I had become normalised to it
c) my standards had risen as I had improved
d) I needed a break
e) I was twice the age I was when I started and had changed a lot

So, I reduced my involvement. Now, when I go back, I really enjoy myself. I see all sorts of new faces doing new and exciting things, people I dont know, some old faces I do, and it feels like 15 years ago!

[identity profile] ladyaelfwynn.livejournal.com 2006-10-03 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
After having work eat one of my replies, I realized I had more to say on this than would fit in a reply here, so go check out the most recent addition on my journal ;-)

As for perusing my old photos, they just bring up fond memories of those in them. I miss those in the photos but not the Faire. My favorite Faire photo is one of John Cooley in the stocks, wearing one of his mischievous smiles.