Translation

[acroyear]

erv : Oklahoma legislator moves to make scientific research illegal:

[Mike Reynolds, state senator of Oklahoma, on a bill that makes any and all embryo research that potentially destroys an embryo illegal] "My motivation is to protect unborn children."

[actually means] "Live children can fuck off. Who the fuck gives a shit about born babies? LOL, or grown ups? Yeah, fuck that shit!"

Comments

[katrinb.livejournal.com]

Live children can't be used to punish women for having sex.

[scaleslea.livejournal.com]

Sure the can! Have you seen these kids?

Actually, live children have traditionally been used to punish women for having sex. Otherwise there would be no stigma to being an "unwed mother".

Doc

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

tell that to the Palin's. last i heard, the stigma is only there if you actually *choose* to be an unwed mother (especially if you're in a homosexual relationship and can't get married) as opposed to an "accident" to a pro-lifer.

[marauderosu.livejournal.com]

On behalf of my home state, I apologize.

[pharmtoxgirl.livejournal.com]

So is he trying to force a Supreme Court show down with Obama just lifting the ban on funding?

[acroyear70.livejournal.com]

well, technically just lifting the ban on funding doesn't mean any actual funding, except in that the NIH or other medical grants can disperse any discretianary spending that way.

as for how the state can interfere in this, the 10th amendment likely rules at this point (the state can do what it wants here). just because the federal government can spend on an item doesn't mean it's legal in the state. it simply means (should this bill pass) that federal dollars for this research can't be spent in Oklahoma. I'm sure the feds wouldn't mind that.

The Democrats are increasingly* taking a pro-science stance at the increasing anti-science irrationality that dominates much of the Republican party. When Republicans go all "God" and get their city or state into embarrassing situations or lawsuits on establishment grounds (which they then lose), they tend to get voted out the very next election. This has, in Virginia, already hit the Senate where we now have two Democrat Senators because the Republicans on the ballot (George Allen, for example) basically just did downright stupid things and we're getting sick of it.

* with exception of vaccination, where some Democrats like RFKjr are anti "big-pharmacy" and therefore against vaccinations, to the detriment of us all.

[pharmtoxgirl.livejournal.com]

K. I was thinking that the state can rule in this point, but I wasn't sure.

You know what I do, I think, I mean, I have my Masters in Pharmacology and Toxiciology - so the anti-science of the past administration KILLED me.

Stupid vaccination argument - don't get me started on that.

I can tell you that the academics in Ohio are going to be up in arms. The researchers that is.

Let's be logical about this?

[scaleslea.livejournal.com]

Is making embryo research that destroys embryos illegal actually going to cause any of these "unborn children" to be carried to term? Um. No.

So he's pandering to a virtual constituency "for the sake of the children!"

Wanna bet he has (cunning) plans for re-directing those research funds?

Doc

[fiona64.livejournal.com]

That pretty much sums up the whole anti-choice position ... "we're only pro-life until it's too late to terminate. After that, we don't give a crap."